Hey Guys, how's it going? Haven't been here since ages. Nice to see 1.5 patch still being worked on.

Quoted from Swolte:

too many obligatory travels (lucky all good things...)

Am I hearing wedding bells?

Quoted from PawelS:

I'm still here (actually I checked this thread after an email from The Groll), so if there is any help needed from me (like making the installer), I will do it.

Hey Pawel, can you please give us an update what the status is on the installer? If I understood Swolte correctly, that's the main thing that is missing for the release and your help is indeed needed there

Any updates???

Hey Pawel, can you please give us an update what the status is on the installer? If I understood Swolte correctly, that's the main thing that is missing for the release and your help is indeed needed there

Making the installer itself is an easy task, it will take me a few hours at most. So when I get a message from Swolte that everything is ready, I will do it (I may also do some other things, like verifying that all the needed .ILB files are included).

But due to my other activities and loss of interest in AoWSM I'm not going to undertake any active role in the development of the patch. I'm only going to help when Swolte asks me to. Also I don't have any information about the current status of the patch, other than things already posted here.

[This message has been edited by PawelS (edited 09-18-2015 @ 08:44 PM).]

ok thanks. Just saying, cos Swolte posted that only some checking and the installer is missing for the release:

As I mentioned, the patch is pretty much done and only needs a thorough round of checking and a professional installer.

Actually I wouldnt even mind if the patch is released without checking and without installer, I guess the majority who is still around knows how to insert custom resources and is eager to take the risk of not everything working 100%. I personally am more interested in the new map assets that come with the patch.

Another month goes buy, is anything going on behind the scenes?

Will it happen this year, Swolte?

If you won't make it this year, can you please just release the content you have as it is, maybe as a custom resource folder? Because making it a full package won't matter much if the last ones are gone. This thread got pretty silent already :/

still waiting

I hope someone who can make an impact on the release still checks this thread!

I really want to see this released after waiting so long. I dont care about some bugs in ot or anything...

I'm Still Hoping for 1.5 to be released soon and enchanted with support of Official Triumph Studios green light to this work build. Still Hawing in mint that no one of those old games is still active except Microsoft's Age of Empires 2 Had not recently release an expansion of this old Epic game, (Called African Kingdoms) therefore i am thinking why Triumph cud not do that also to regain old glory of old games because they got such Great feel of atmosphere and relay got space to implement more life in those games of Age of Wonders, Age of Wonders 2 SM.

Maybe we will see something in 2016, but it doesn't look good with the lack of response from the folks that used to work on this project.

Hello old friends!

I have abandoned AoWSM since some time because PBEM died since AoW III was released.
I also donīt have much time for computing in general BUT my son is addicted to AOWSM since some time and when he gets better we will maybe start playing together again (If he is able to beat me).

I have not talked to Swolte during a longer time.
Maybe he will write some words in this old forum and I really hope he will release the upatch as it is soon even when it is not done.

I would really like to finish my map I made for it.
It could also start new PBEM games.

I still have this forum page pinned in my browser and check if news are around.
I will never forget AOWSM and just today a player wrote me a nice email about Secrets of Marlenia (one of my maps shipped with the first upatch).

I am still here...

Merry Christmas and a happy new year for all of you!

That is a nice post, the Groll!

I use this reply to also wish you all a merry Christmas and a good new year! ... with some good AOW-games, be it AOW:SM or AOW3 - and let's hope Swolte will be back in 2016.

I also want to wish merry christmas and happy new year to everyone

Sadly no 1.5 as present this year :/

I can just repeat myself: Please just release whatever you have right now swolte, I think no one really cares about bugs or an installer.
Let others who are still interested in AoWSM carry the torch, then you can get your well deserved rest and no one will beg you again

I also wonder who else got a recent built of the patch? The mapmakers must have had one to use the new content in their maps? Is there a possibility that at least that version gets uploaded somewhere so active mapmakers or modders can use it?

[This message has been edited by freezy (edited 12-26-2015 @ 08:53 PM).]

Hello everyone!

I am new here. Well, actually I am not. I have been visiting this thread for years and years (actually a decade!). Just today I finally gathered enough courage to register here and reply.

Being a serious AoW:SM fan, I still play the game. As recently as yesterday I played Drums of Death which really is an epic piece of art. My most humble thanks to Swolte for creating such an inspiring map.

I just wanted to reply here and let everyone know that there still are many fans who desperately wish for the Unoffial Patch 1.5 to be released. We want it. We need it.

Hey Erska!

Nice you finally "dare" to register and post here.
Hey Swolte!
Here is someone who kick your ass so come and do it!
Release what you already have my friend!
There are still some good players around who believe in your art.
So even when you are busy and donīt have interest in AoWSM anymore.
Please grab the stuff and create a working build for us.
I still have my workbuild and it isnīt so bad but a true build would be much better you know.

Dear Erska. Please talk to the last players and tell us what you want to say. Maybe not in this thread but the forum is so quiet.
So donīt be shy anymore.

Please finish the patch. Me and many others have been several years waiting for it.

Hey Groll.

Do you know how much (or what kind of) stuff was added to the patch after your latest work build? Is it reasonable that you just release that workbuild for the remaining mappers/modders to use if Swolte cannot release the patch in a reasonable amount of time? (we just have to define a date, maybe that would also encourage Swolte to beat it ^^)

But please no "in next three months I'll try" and "may be in the end of the next year". There's already no big surpsrise but long frustrating waiting. Many years of long frustrating waiting to be honest and with no profit to anybody as we can see it now.

I think it's better to have something disattached and unfinished then to have none and waiting.

As I was part of the campaign team at some point I have a workbuild. But it's very very old (from 2010) and I don't feel good to share it without swoltes permission :-S.

I can really understand all you say and I really wonder why no one get angry so far and demands us other upatchdevs to release what we have.

It is really frustrating to wait for another "end of the year" or "in the next three months" or such shit.
No one really believes this anymore and you can really call us upatch-devs liars.
And in the end many of the silent players still left have abandoned us here because we have fooled you for to long.
Many have lost faith.
And none of us upatch-devs can say "we donīt understand why you lost your faith and get angry".

I dare to say that none of the devs (me included) have worked for the upatch for more than a year now.

I wanted to make an own mod after upatch is released and the last stuff I made was for this own mod.
But I still waited for upatch because I would feel guilty and like a robber (even when it would be new stuff I use in my mod) if I release it before upatch is released.
I would prefer to hand over this stuff to Swolte to implement it but I fear there is no true will to implement it and it would not lead to an earlier release.
In the end I abandoned AoWSM myself because PBEM games broke down when AoW III was released.
The only thing what drags me back is the fact that I made a really cool looking map for upatch and own stuff and the fact that my son is playing the game now. He is getting better ever day and maybe one day he will be a good opponent or ally and draw me back to the game.


Of course I also have the latest but also old workbuild.
But I still donīt think it would be a good idea to release it.

I donīt say "donīt lose faith" or "at the end of the year".
I only say "I still believe" in my old friendship with Swolte and PawelS - even when there is not much left of our "daily communications".
They are still old friends.

I will write another email to Swolte an I think and hope he will show up and write us some words.
Maybe even release what he can wrap together and send it to PawelS to compile and create the installer.

Heads up and "Helm ab zum Gebet"

P.S.: Only a very small part of the map I was working on in the past. I think if I open the editor I will be dragged back for sure but I need a release of the upatch too to find back.

http://aow2.heavengames.com/pix/rndshots/aowsm_128.jpg

Take a look

[This message has been edited by The Groll (edited 02-05-2016 @ 07:31 PM).]

Awesome pic! Man, I miss this game!!

Apologies about the slow responses, but this is still on the radar. I am shooting for a March break release and that's realistic. We were very close last year. PawelS is also on board with this timeline.

No excuse, but I just bought a house and a lot of free time was sucked up by that. Now my family is visiting and they won't leave until mid-February. I should be able to string a couple of hours together with PawelS to release it. Won't even be too buggy!

~ S

Oh great! teasers once again. I think it's better to gather them from all thread in one reply to show you guys that you have some moral responcibilities. And to be honest I don't know how you can be that BUSY for not to have hour or two for years - my bet it is the same shit as The Groll said. Groll you're so calm and positive because you have that patch really - others don't. Some grown up from the game some even died during these years. And If you'll go to heroescommunity forums you'll see pojects died even on HDD of the team (Kremlin town) and some leaked and have a new life (like Bastion). I spend three years in intense development in community projects (BotArena project) and made some modules for Vassal (Arkham Horror module) and helped in some other minor tasks for MTG engines and I have to say that if you're making something - you make it and release it and if there's nothing happening out there you tease gathering wow's and nothing will ever happen. Oh yea we're cool look at the teasers we are so professional - no leakage before the release. Those every-commit repository workbuilds are not cool and for loosers - only biggest release ever. Everything is ok guys - really you have wow's in thread history and something on your home PCs and the whole community pissed off for years.

[This message has been edited by USer16 (edited 02-06-2016 @ 02:11 AM).]

If it is really going to be done in march that is great news, thank you very much Swolte! Hope all goes well with your new home.

Also good that Groll has the latest work build as well, just in case... The picture looks really great, especially those new assets. The date in the picture (2011) just makes me sad a little bit, that was from 5 years ago.

[This message has been edited by freezy (edited 02-06-2016 @ 01:51 PM).]

Reading all of this and that, I always see 'AoW3 killed this, AoW3 killed that' and I never understand... Is it all really serious? How could this piece of sh*t named AoW3 ever kill anything? Triumph has killed all the magic of previous two games, that's what had been really killed.
Did no one see it?

The modding community of old good AoW 1-2 is all that's left for all of us, who still love the serie.

[This message has been edited by Vissavald (edited 02-08-2016 @ 04:08 AM).]

Great to see a post from Swolte again, I am still holding out hope that we will see a release at some point in the not-to-distant future.

I wanted to chime in and let you folks know that there are others still watching and waiting.

Thank you!

good news