Do you need help putting it into an installer?

finally logging in and posting works again ^^

I am really glad that you are finally going to release this I then can finally finish my unfinished maps, that I may upload here aswell.

So hope everything goes well and we have it very soon-ish??

Hi, new here but a seasoned AoW:Sm player. Without going through 80-odd pages, has anyone suggested allowing the item forge to produce items with 4 properties? Perhaps only for those abilities that have four levels, such as Leadership, Vision etc?

i can't wait of this great update i hope it is coming soon

Maybe in February?

pleeeeease swolte, don't stop so short before finish

Hi Swoltie can you send me a last work-build if there is someone after last update on unofficial forum. Now am working on huge map for patch so if there i some additions or bugs that need to be fixed. I have problems about sending e mail. i don't know did you received any i tried to write on e mail group discussion but there is no reply...

*bump* any update?

Maybe in March?

hmmmm no signs of life

Ok, it took me 10 minutes to locate that fancy medieval button I forgot my question. Where do you guys meets and trade ip to play aows 1.4 + mod with Hamachi ? And I'm happy this game is not dead, and aow 3 is nice but there is not enough races and units. And units cannot miss.
So how do we play ? what mod aows build im supposed to have ready at all time if I want to play ?

I think that question is a bit off-topic in this thread, I am sure there are other threads here that answer your question

@Swolte: Not long ago you estimated the release to be beginning of 2015. Can you please give us an update now? Since you already worked on finalizing the package it should be nearly done, right? What is missing now, can someone help?

Maybe in April?

hm it's a bit sad that we can't get an update on the status of the project :/

The Groll / Swolte, is any progress or activity happening behind the scenes?

The last time I was losing hope, The Groll and Swolte started some activity and assured folks that the project would be released in some form. Is that still the case or is this thing dead? It gets disheartening to keep checking back here and see no activity for months at a time.
Any update would be much appreciated. Thank you!

Come on, plz don't make us wait another year after the project was nearly finished :/. You said you want people to push you here a little bit, so I hope you don't mind me checking back from time to time... :P

another month, another bump

I second the bump. Freezy, I think it's just you and I at this point. Damn shame, so close and yet so far!

Hello and sorry for not responding to your bumps.

I still look at this page whenever I open my browser and it is locked to my browser all the time. No I idea why I missed to answer earlier.
I think it was in January when I talked to Swolte and bumped, pleased and begged him again to release whatever he have so far because the team is dead - afaik.
He said he will then ask PawelS to make the installer and then release the unfinished or lets better or more friendly say the untested upatch.
That is what I know so far.
Swolte traveled from one location to another and changed his life a lot during the last months and so I understand all the loitering with the upatch.
But I still think it will come one soon day.
I really hope so.
To be honest I abandoned AoWSM myself since some time.
But my little son still plays it and if he gets a little better I will step in again and play with him together.
I was not the biggest part in the devs team during the second upatch project.
I can´t force Swolte or PawelS and can´t release it myself because Swolte have the files and knowledge to do this together with PawelS.
I fear for the project but will not accept myself to loose in this fight and loose the unfinished upatch.

Let me tell you a small story please to explain my hopes for upatch - it is quiet enough here to be off topic ehh? Yea! To bad.

Once I made a map called Marlenes Laughter.
It was such a monster of a map and it is still full of bugs.
During the making I suffer... In real life as in the development of the map and I came to the point where I want to leave it down - unfinished. It raped me somehow and it ruined my real life these days and at some point I thought I should stop and end it. And I do so.
When my real life becomes more happier again I doubt that I should or could start to work on it again. After a while I though I should do it because it was a part of my life and every part should be ended somehow and so I finished the monster and released it to the world.
Some fans really liked it a lot while other suffer because the map crashed the game sometimes because it is to big to handle for the game itself or because it have to many scripted event bugs inside.
Nevertheless! It was alive.
It must be done and it was done even when it was very had to do in between and again in the end.

I have abandoned AoWSM now but if upatch is released I will come back and finish my map I once made for this project to show the power of this new and for sure last upatch.
The map is in a good part done, maybe 80% of mapdesign when it comes to landscape painting but very less completed when it comes to event scripting and Technics. It was made in the wish to create a nice looking MP map that can be played in MP or SP so story and event scripting is not that important as it was in most of my othe maps.
And there are some specials inside that are only possible with some new upatch abilities.
I always´want to make this map with this technics. Really cool - and when I think of it I want to start working on it again but I need to knowlegde it can be played in the new upatch because it is only made for this patch.
That was a the little story and that is why I still hope for the upatch release.


So my hope for the upatch project is... still alive.

When some men made something good they should not suffer even when they loss in between and should release the stuff to the world even when they are not really happy with the outcome.

I really really really understand all you fans are discouraged, a little bit angry but in most cases maybe sad and disappointed in us the devs of upatch and you are right to do so.

I will write Swolte and PawelS an email right after I finish this post and I please you to hope the best like I still do and check back here from time to time.
Maybe Swolte and PawelS will come here to make a post and maybe they have some good news.

Thanks for the story, Groll I really liked your maps btw. Also thanks for writing those emails.

For me it is a similar situation. I did not play SM for 2 years or more years, alyways telling myself "well the patch is supposed to come out soon, I just wait for that so I have a reason to get more into SM again". I also still have unfinished map projects. Maybe I finish and release them after the patch comes out to give something back to the community.
So I think it is the same for many: They may have stopped playing, but just wait for the patch to come out to get back in . It could breathe new life into the SM community.

I can of course understand the situation of Swolte and Pawel. But please, just release the project even if its not finished. The mapmakers will still make great use of the new stuff. I think you will be happy with that heavy burden finally off from your shoulders. And the other dev members who put work into the project deserve it aswell I guess.

Hello freezy!

I thank you for your words and can only double them.
Swolte already answered to my email btw. He said he will have a look at this soon.

Been here and following the post for a looooonnnng time...
Still believing!!

Groll, thank you very much again for your efforts in attempting to keep this project alive. This is the second time I have lost hope in this release due to the obvious inactivity here, and the second time you have been able to renew that hope by attempting to get communication flowing. I will continue to check back and see if there has been any progress, hopefully Swolte and PawelS will find the time to finish putting there components together and get this out the door in some form. Thanks again!

Hi all,

Good to be back!

Please do summon me on my swolte gmail account if there's something urgent.

So yes, we were frustratingly close to a release last year and we have now lost that momentum. As I mentioned, the patch is pretty much done and only needs a thorough round of checking and a professional installer. Unfortunately, getting back into all of this will take us some time.

I'll be honest in saying there's no way this will be done in the summer. I have a whole lab to set up, a house to build, and too many obligatory travels (lucky all good things...). Realistically, October-December this year seems very feasible. I am still moving a task reminder every week so this is definitely not off my mind.

Swolte, I am happy to hear that this task is still on your radar. Thank you very much for any time you can contribute to the effort in getting this project completed. Best of luck to you with all of your personal activities!

I'm still here (actually I checked this thread after an email from The Groll), so if there is any help needed from me (like making the installer), I will do it.

Great, thanks for the reply Swolte! Would be cool if you can come in here from time to time and post what's up. Even if it's just a "no time for it this month", but then we at least know that it was not abandoned

Also you say testing is required. Well maybe you should just skip that at this point and release what you have without? I think the map makers and modders can figure the stuff out if problems arise.

Anyway, good luck with your lab and your house

PawelS, your input and efforts on this project are also appreciated, thank you for checking in.

I'm still waiting...


in dev we trust

Thanks for the update guys. We still believe in up1.5