posted 09-23-07 08:53 PM
2150 / 2994
Got the names confused.
Anyways. Its not that much more for how much much better air elemental is then the birds. Compare to salamander verses fires level 2's and 3's(which take research too) in both effectiveness and cost to cast. The difference is alot less dramatic then it is for zephir birds verses AE.
posted 09-23-07 11:25 PM
2151 / 2994
As I see it, the best way to balance the Air Elemental is against the other summons of the same level. Note that the Air Elemental should probably be weaker or more specialized in actual combat due to its greatly enhanced scouting abilities. The tradeoff of combat power in the summons for greater mobility is an interesting aspect of the air sphere.
Here are the other level 3 summons as compared to the Air Elemental for reference:
Air Ele properties: Flying, Vision II, Lightning Immunity, Cold Immunity, Physical Protection, Whirlwind
Name ATK DEF DMG RES HP MOV COST
Earth Ele -3 +4 +2 -1 +12 -16 -20
Tunneling, Wall Crushing, Cave Crawling, Fire Immunity, Poison Immunity, Mountaineering, Willpower, Hurl Boulder, Night Vision
Bone Drag +1 +2 0 -1 +7 0 +40
Death Strike, Cause Fear, Dragon, Undead, Black Breath, Poison Protection, Holy Weakness, Vision I, Night Vision
Nature Ele -2 +1 0 +5 +9 -8 +10
Death Weakness, Forestry, Entagle Strike, Life Domain, Path of Life, Poison Immunity, Regeneration
Efreet -2 0 0 +1 +4 -8 -30
Cold Weakness, Fire Immunity, Fire Strike, Floating, Ignition, Fire Bolts, Round Attack
Water Ele -2 +1 0 +1 +9 -12 -20
Water Concealment, Steam, Fire Immunity, Poison Weakness, Lightning Protection, Liquid Form
The Bone Dragon does seem to be a pretty good bargain vs. the Air Elemental, with superior stats and only missing one rank of Vision as a scouting tool. It does cost more mana, though. If Whirlwind and the lack of Holy Weakness are really valuable, then I can see them being balanced.
Generally, they seem balanced in my amateur opinion. The Earth Elemental seems like a great deal as long as you can get a transport for it.
Does it seem more logical that the Water Elemental have Lightning Protection or Lightning Weakness?
posted 09-24-07 00:50 AM
2155 / 2994
Stranger, did you get my email about the numbers??