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posted 12-03-03 10:22 PM EDT (US)   
Welcome to the AOWH Wizards Ladder
Original Ladder System and Rules Created by: ArmageddonUnlimited and Dark Side of Day Modified for Play-By-Email by: Cay Ladder Update Program Written by: Talon and Updated by: Hiranu

Ladder Administered by: Hiranu

This thread is to be used for:

  • Signing up for the AOWH Wizards Ladder
  • Reporting Ladder Game Results

Off-topic replies will be moved or deleted.

Quick Reference:

Before using the following quick reference links, you must first register with HeavenGames Forums, and then login:

  • Sign Up for the AOWH Wizards Ladder. Provide your PBEM email address.

  • Browse the Game Registry.

  • Challenge other players to a new ladder game.

  • Register a new ladder game. Provide the URL for the turn log.

  • Report the result of a completed ladder game. Provide game registration number and winning and losing players.

  • View the Current Standings and Hall of Records.

How to Join The AOWH Wizards Ladder:

Joining the AOWH Wizards Ladders is easy!

  1. You must be a registered member of the Age of Wonders Heaven forums. If you have previously registered on a different HeavenGames forum, you may use the same forum name and password to login to Age of Wonders Heaven. If you are not a member of any HeavenGames forums, then register now.

  2. Post a reply in this thread that you wish to join the ladder. Be sure to include the email address that you wish to use for PBEM games.

  3. Read the ladder rules so that you understand how the ladder works!

  4. You can start playing ladder games right away as long as you have posted in the Ladder Thread that you want to join and have left your PBEM email address.

How to find ladder games:

  • Post a general challenge to all ladder players, indicating that you are starting a new ladder game. You should provide details such as what map will be used, how many players you are looking for and how the teams will be decided.

  • Browse the Current Standings and select a specific player or players that you wish to challenge. Send the player(s) an email, and discuss which map and races to play.[/ul]

    Please note: Make sure the players you are playing are on the ladder. It is very dissapointing to not get credit for a win when you find out the player you beat isn't actually a registered ladder player. You can easily check to see if a player is registered on the ladder by looking for their forum name in the Current Standings.

    How to register new ladder games:

    Register New Ladder Games by posting a reply in the Game Registry. Be sure to include a link to the thread which you will be using as a turn log, which is required for 3 or more player games, and recommended even for 1 on one games.

    Please note: You must register your game when it starts or else you will not be allowed to report the result when it is finished. Be sure not to forget the registration step or else you could be disappointed later.

    How to report ladder game results:

    Report Game Results: by posting a reply in this thread. Post the game registry number and the forum names of all the winning and losing players. Only one player from the game needs to post a reply. I can verify the result if necessary by checking the game's turn log. For FFA games simply list the players in the order they were eliminated along with who each player was killed by, with the winer being posted first.

    Please report games in this form: Game #1: Draco, Nojd defeat Cay, Jerk

    Forum Names: Please be sure to report your games using the correct Forum Names for all players. This will assist me greatly when entering the names into the ladder update program.

    Earning Ladder Points:

    The winner of a game is awarded the points given in the 'Value of opponents' category that applies to their opponent's rank, while the loser loses that same amount of points.

    Scoring for Individuals:

    (A)Experts: 200+....................Value of opponents: A: 6, B: 3, C: 3, D: 1, E: 1, F: 1.
    (B)High Inters: 165-199...........Value of opponents: A: 9, B: 6, C: 3, D:3, E: 1, F: 1.
    (C)Inters: 111-164..................Value of opponents: A: 12, B: 9, C: 6, D: 3, E: 3, F: 1.
    ZERO Gamers: 100..................Value of ALL opponents: Winner gets 2, loser loses 2.
    (D)Low Inters: 90-110.............Value of opponents: A: 15, B: 12, C: 9, D: 6, E: 3, F: 3.
    (E)Good Rookies: 80-89...........Value of opponents: A: 18, B: 15, C: 12, D: 9, E: 6, F: 3.
    (F)Rookies: 79 & Under...........Value of opponents: A: 21, B: 18, C: 15, D: 12, E: 9, F: 6.

    Example 1: You currently have 108 points and are thus ranked as an Low Inter (category D). You play, and beat another forumer who has 166 points and is therefore ranked as High Inter (category B). You can see in the 'Value of opponents' for Inters that category B players are worth 12 points to you. Hence, you gain 12 points for defeating the High Inter player, while they in fact lose 12 points for the loss.

    Example 2: Good Rookie (E) loses to a Rookie (F): The Good Rookie loses 9 points, while the Rookie gains 9 points.

    Example 3: Inter (C) beats a Zero Gamer: The Inter gains 2 points while the Zero Gamer loses 2 points.

    Scoring for Team Games:

    Team games must start with an even amount of players on both sides. Team games are scored by adding up the total rating of all players for each of the sides, and then comparing the difference as follows:

    Winning team is 61+ points higher..........1
    Winning team is 46-60 points higher.......2
    Winning team is 31-45 points higher.......3
    Winning team is 16-30 points higher.......4
    Winning team is 6-15 points higher.......5
    Winning team is 0-5 points higher.........6
    Winning team is 1-5 points lower..........6
    Winning team is 6-15 points lower........7
    Winning team is 16-30 points lower........8
    Winning team is 31-40 points lower........9
    Winning team is 41-50 points lower.......10
    Winning team is 51-60 points lower.......11
    Winning team is 61+ points lower..........12

    The number given for each row is the amount of points added to each member's rating on the winning team, and the amount subtracted from each member's rating on the losing team.

    Scoring for Free For All Games:

    In FFA games points are awarded for position and players killed. Posirion points are as follows:

    3 player : 5 / 1 / -6
    4 player : 6 / 3 / -3 / -6
    5 player : 6 / 3 / 1 / -4 / -6
    6 player : 7 / 4 / 3 / -3 / -5 / -6
    7 player : 8 / 5 / 3 / 2 / -6 / -6 / -6
    8 player : 9 / 6 / 3 / 3 / -3 / -6 / -6 / -6

    Then you are awarded kill bonuses for those wizards you eliminated. For each person you kill you gain 2 points, and they lose 2 points. If a person is killed by independents they lose 2 points, which is split between the top two players, unless it is the second player, in which case the winner gets it all.

    Be aware that the Free For All rules are new, and its possible they may change at some point in the future.

    Rules of the AOWH Wizards Ladder:

    Joining the AOWH Wizards Ladder:

    • You must be a registered user of the HeavenGames forums in order to join the AOWH Wizards Ladder. If you have not already done so, please register and login.

    • To join the ladder, you must post a reply in this thread stating that you wish to register.

    • You must supply an email address that you wish to use for your PBEM games when you register for the ladder. If you do not supply one, then the email address listed in your forum profile will be used as a default.

    Starting New Games:

    • Start a new thread in the AoW Play By Email forum to organize a new ladder game. Specify that the game will count towards the AOWH Wizards Ladder, and give details such as the map to be used, how many players per team and which races are to be played.

    • Post an Open Challenge in the AOWH Open Challenges thread to ask for other players to challenge you. Read and follow the instructions in that thread.

    • Games may be played between individuals (1-vs-1) or between balanced teams of up to 4 players each (2-vs-2, 3-vs-3 or 4-vs-4) or in an FFA style. Unbalanced teams, or more than one team are not allowed.

    • Only players registered with the ladder may join the game. Please verify that all players are registered with the ladder befoer you start the game.

    Registering New Games:

    • All players in a game must be members of the ladder, and agree to register the game as a ladder game.

    • Post a reply in the Game Registry stating that you wish to register a new ladder game. Remember to include a url in your reply to the thread which you will be using as a turn log.

    Playing Games:

    • Play your turns promptly upon receiving them. If you cannot play a turn within 3 days of receiving it, then post a reply to the turn log stating the reason and length of your expected delay.

    • After playing your turn and sending it to the next player, post a reply in the turn log stating the turn number that you have just sent. These turn logs are your guarantee that you have played your turns in the case that a player or game goes missing. They can be used by the ladder administrator to determine if a player should default from a game in the event of an extended, unexplained delay.

    • If you have not received a turn from your opponent for 5 days, then check the turn log and contact your opponent by email to ensure that the game is not missing. At the time you send this email, you should send a carbon copy / cc: of the email to the ladder administrator and post a message in the turn log stating that you have done so. If your oppponent does not respond within 3 days, then please contact the ladder administrator by email and provide the game number, a link to the turn log, and the forum name of the player who is causing the delay. The ladder administrator will then take appropriate action.

    • If a player causes an extended, unexplained delay in a game then the ladder administrator may assess a default to that player.

      If the player is an individual participating in a 1-vs-1 game, then the opponent will receive a win, and the defaulting player will receive both a loss and a penalty of -5 ladder points.

      If the player is a member of a 2-vs-2, 3-vs-3 or 4-vs-4 team and all of the player's team members have already been eliminated, then the opposing team will receive a win, the defaulting player's team will receive a loss, and the defaulting player will receive a penalty of -5 ladder points.

      If the player is a member of a 2-vs-2, 3-vs-3 or 4-vs-4 team and other members of the player's team are still alive, or if the players is a member of an FFA game, then the game may continue as follows: The defaulting player is removed from the game and assessed a penalty of -5 ladder points. The defaulting player's race may be played by a substitute player who is ranked within the same ladder category as the defaulting player (Zero Gamer is equivalent to Low Inter). The substitute player may not be one of the existing team members. That player then has 2 turns to post to the registration thread that they accept the risks and benifits, and if so the game will be scored as if they had played in it from the beginning.. If they fail to do so then when the game is completed the points will be given and taken from the defaulting player.

    • Players may choose whether or not they wish to use passwords for their ladder games. However, in the case that a player wishes to use a password in a team game, the password should be shared with other team members, or with the heavengames password guardians. If the password is not shared, and a player defaults from a game, then the other team members will be unable to finish the game and will be assessed a loss. In the case of an FFA game each other player will recieve 5 points from the defaulting player as compensation, and the game will be declared over.

    Reporting Results for Completed Games:

    • A win is granted when a single player eliminates their opponent in a 1-vs-1 game, or when all players from the opposing team have been eliminated in a team game. A "Kill" in an FFA game is awarded if an oponent dies at any point during your turn or during their turn while attacking your units.. (The independents moving is not part of any players turn.)

    • All wins must be reported to this thread within 24 h of the completion of the game. Game results will be entered into the ladder update program in the order that they are posted. Failure to report a win within 24 h could result in the winners losing credit for the game. This is because other games could be reported in the meantime which will affect the ladder standings, and thus the points awarded for each win.

    • Post a reply in this thread stating the game # and forum names of all winning and losing players.

    • The creation of multiple forum accounts ("smurfing") for the purpose of cheating by reporting false ladder games will not be tolerated. Turn logs will be checked for all game results that are reported. If there is a concern that someone is smurfing, IP addresses will be checked. Smurfing is a serious forum offence, and anyone caught smurfing will be banned from all HeavenGames forums.

    Miscellaneous Rules:

    • This ladder will be approximatly every week. All changes including the addition or removal of names to the ladder will take place only during the update times.

    • Zero Gamers will be removed from the ladder if it appears that they have become inactive for an extended period of time without notice.

    • Attempts to distort the spirit of this ladder (such as through being involved in multiple disputes about who won, smurfing, etc.) can result in being removed from the ladder or otherwise penalised.

    • Rules may be added, removed or modified at any time in order to maintain the integrity of the ladder. All changes to the rules will be announced prior to coming into effect.

    • All disputes will be resolved by the ladder administrator. If you have any concerns or questions, please email them to the administrator. Disputes involving the ladder administrator will be resolved by neutral staff members.

    Special rules concerning the Champion:

    The only way a Champion can be replaced is by defeating the current Champion, regardless of who has the most ladder points. It is possible for the Champion to have less ladder points then other ladder players.

    Earning Ladder Points as Champion

    The Champion will continue to earn points for wins according to the category he is in, by the same point structure as everyone else. Example: If the Champion is in the Inter category he will get 6 points for beating players from the inter category, 3 points for beating players in the Mid Inter category, etc.

    Defeating the Champion

    If the Champion is defeated then the player who defeated him replaces him as Champion. The old Champion then returns to the ladder and is ranked according to his ladder points. The new Champion is awarded ladder points according to both players categories for his victory over the old Champion, and old Champion loses points for his lose. Team games do not count as Championship games. So if the Champion is involved in a team game, and is on the losing side the Champion does not lose his title.

    Challenging the Champion

    Anybody in the top 3 ladder positions (and with a rating of 101 or more) can issue a challenge to the current Champion for 1-vs-1 ladder game. The Challenger must post this challenge to the Champion in the Game Registry, and must notify the Champion of this by email. The Champion must accept all challenges made in the Game Registry by qulaified players in the top 3 ladder positions to a maximum of 5 simultaneous challenge matches. If the Champion is already playing 5 challenge matches, then the Champion may accept new challenges, but is not required to do so. The Champion will select the map and 2 races to be played (but not who plays them), and emails the map and choices to the ladder administrator and the challenger. The map selected by the champion should not be excessively large so as to be able to be completed within a reasonable amount of time. The Challenger will decide who plays each of the 2 races selected by the Champion and email that choice to the ladder administrator, who will set up the game and mail up the first turn. If there are no challenges to the Champion, then the Champion is free to play any ladder player he wants, if he wants. Since PBEM games may take several weeks or months to complete, it is possible that a player may challenge the Champion, but that the Champion will no longer be the Champion when the match is complete. Therefore, it is wise for players to challenge as many other players near the top of the ladder as possible, since one of these other players may become the Champion in the meantime.

    No Response from Champion

    If 10 days pass with the Champion being notified of a challenge in the Game Registry but failing to respond, then the Champion's rating drops to one point lower than the rating of the player in position 3 on the ladder, and the Champion loses his or her status as Champion. Then the highest ranking player on the ladder becomes the Champion. If two or more players occupy the highest ladder position, then the new Champion will not be declared until there is a single player in the highest position. However, if the Champion posts in the Game Registry that he or she will be away for a short period of time, then no official challenges can be made during this period.

    [This message has been edited by hiranu (edited 06-18-2004 @ 11:01 PM).]

  • Replies:
    posted 10-29-04 05:58 AM EDT (US)     31 / 165  
    I have a game registered against Wladca_Swiata but it does not appear in the list. As he is not able to complete, I claim a victory - I need the points!
    posted 10-31-04 08:13 PM EDT (US)     32 / 165  
    im gonna join too

    dragoon123444 @ hotmail . com

    posted 11-01-04 09:19 PM EDT (US)     33 / 165  
    Okay Unicorn, let me give you a hand on your points...

    Game 253 Nuclear Fallout, Enginerd defeats Unicorn
    Game 254 Nuclear Fallout, Enginerd defeats Unicorn.

    There, that should help

    posted 11-03-04 03:50 PM EDT (US)     34 / 165  
    248. The Apprentice, Nojd defeats Arctic Wolf

    [This message has been edited by Nojd (edited 11-03-2004 @ 03:50 PM).]

    posted 11-10-04 03:11 PM EDT (US)     35 / 165  
    Game 264
    Thorongil defeats Xaidos

    If you've come for a visit, you'd be welcome with fewer, if you've come to take me away, you'll need a lot more.
    posted 11-13-04 02:58 AM EDT (US)     36 / 165  
    245. Thinreed Lake, Nojd defeats Sprout
    posted 11-19-04 11:22 AM EDT (US)     37 / 165  
    Game No 172 - PoaP Sleet v Unicorn

    Sleet seems to have gone dormant again - no reply to emails - so I will have to draw a line under this one and claim the game.

    posted 11-22-04 06:08 PM EDT (US)     38 / 165  
    Well, I was once on the Wizard's Ladder, but I seem to have been misplaced (Or a new Wizard's Ladder was started, or I was removed when I went inactive). So I'll sign up again:

    Unknown250, email

    posted 11-24-04 11:39 AM EDT (US)     39 / 165  
    Game No. ??

    Enginerd defeats Nojd on Marshland Wars

    posted 11-24-04 05:23 PM EDT (US)     40 / 165  
    Game 177: Dan Petersson and Eriksson defeat Thorongil and Sleet on the Riverland Wars map.

    Thanks all for a good game!

    Itīs nice to be important, but itīs more important to be nice.
    posted 12-03-04 07:11 PM EDT (US)     41 / 165  
    Hi, one of my friends who is an AoW PBEM person told me about this place, and i've decided to sign up. I have had past expeariance (if only a little) with PBEM, but my friend can help me out if i need it. My e-mail is


    (i think i posted this in the right place, if not please move it)

    Official Goblin swarm masser. Beware MUAHAHA!!!

    [This message has been edited by GollumWithAGun (edited 12-03-2004 @ 07:12 PM).]

    posted 12-03-04 08:45 PM EDT (US)     42 / 165  
    Game number ??? Thorongil defeats Unknown256 on Mountain Clash

    If you've come for a visit, you'd be welcome with fewer, if you've come to take me away, you'll need a lot more.
    posted 12-04-04 12:15 PM EDT (US)     43 / 165  
    And a good game it was, too

    PS: It's 250, not 256. Just to avoid confusion

    posted 12-08-04 02:02 PM EDT (US)     44 / 165  
    Game No 256 - Unicorn77 defeats Wild Weasel on Nuclear Fallout.
    posted 12-08-04 11:41 PM EDT (US)     45 / 165  
    Game ??? (not assigned number yet)

    Map: North and South
    Enginerd defeats Thorongil

    posted 12-11-04 06:40 AM EDT (US)     46 / 165  
    Game 257 - Wild Weasel defeats Unicorn77
    posted 12-14-04 10:40 PM EDT (US)     47 / 165  
    Game ???

    Thorongil defeats Unicorn77 on Riverland Wars.

    Thanks for the game!

    If you've come for a visit, you'd be welcome with fewer, if you've come to take me away, you'll need a lot more.
    posted 12-15-04 12:37 PM EDT (US)     48 / 165  
    Hidden Kingdoms... game number not assigned...ends in a draw.

    If you've come for a visit, you'd be welcome with fewer, if you've come to take me away, you'll need a lot more.

    [This message has been edited by Thorongil (edited 12-16-2004 @ 06:14 PM).]

    posted 12-16-04 10:43 AM EDT (US)     49 / 165  
    Seeking clarification from Thorongil re our HK game. I thought we'd agreed to call it a draw and RW was the WL replacement.
    posted 12-28-04 04:18 PM EDT (US)     50 / 165  
    Game 259 results:

    Dan Petersson defeats enginerd on Riverland Wars, thereby claiming the Champion title. (Wonder for how long?)

    Great game enginerd, looking forward to the rematch.

    Itīs nice to be important, but itīs more important to be nice.
    posted 01-01-05 00:33 AM EDT (US)     51 / 165  
    New Games Added to AOWH Ladder

    Game #251: Driekus74(100->102) defeats Xiados(100->98)
    Effect: +/- 2 Points

    Game #252: unicorn77(85->94) defeats Wladca_Swiata(92->83)
    Effect: +/- 9 Points

    Game #253: enginerd(124->127) defeats unicorn77(94->91)
    Effect: +/- 3 Points

    Game #254: enginerd(127->130) defeats unicorn77(91->88)
    Effect: +/- 3 Points

    Game #255: Nojd(168->169) defeats Arctic Wolf(94->93)
    Effect: +/- 1 Points

    Game #256: Thorongil(102->108) defeats Xiados(98->92)
    Effect: +/- 6 Points

    Game #257: Nojd(169->175) defeats Sprout(171->165)
    Effect: +/- 6 Points

    Game #258: unicorn77(88->106) defeats Sprout(165->147)
    Effect: +/- 18 Points

    Game #259: enginerd(130->139) defeats Nojd(175->166)
    Effect: +/- 9 Points

    Game #260: Dan Petersson(118->122) and Eriksson(132->136) defeat Thorongil(108->104) and Sleet(113->109)
    Effect: +/- 4 Points

    Game #261: Thorongil(104->106) defeats Unknown250(100->98)
    Effect: +/- 2 Points

    Game #262: unicorn77(106->112) defeats Wild Weasel(110->104)
    Effect: +/- 6 Points

    Game #263: enginerd(139->142) defeats Thorongil(106->103)
    Effect: +/- 3 Points

    Game #264: unicorn77(112->115) defeats Wild Weasel(104->101)
    Effect: +/- 3 Points

    Game #265: Thorongil(103->112) defeats unicorn77(115->106)
    Effect: +/- 9 Points

    Game #266: Dan Petersson(122->131) defeats enginerd(142->133)
    Effect: +/- 9 Points

    New Players Added to AOWH Ladder


    posted 01-06-05 10:40 AM EDT (US)     52 / 165  


    Game #264: unicorn77(112->115) defeats Wild Weasel(104->101)
    Effect: +/- 3 Points

    264 isn't a me vs Uni game and I'm pretty sure Uni's only defeated me once. I think this should be 267, a victory for me on Cold Fusion.


    posted 01-10-05 09:59 AM EDT (US)     53 / 165  
    After numerous mails and even setting up an individual thread to garner response, I'm afraid the follow games are going to have to be taken by default:

    238, 239 vs Cuban General.
    249 - vs Sleet.



    posted 01-10-05 11:25 AM EDT (US)     54 / 165  
    WW, the game number is just the order in which the results are posted.


    Game #251: Driekus74(100->102) defeats Xiados(100->98)
    Effect: +/- 2 Points

    Same problem as WW. I posted that I won that game.

    Hmm.. Maybe I shouldn't mention it considering all the games Thorongil was in. >__>

    Age of Wonders 1 Online Players Listing - Here
    posted 01-11-05 09:34 AM EDT (US)     55 / 165  
    Wild Weasel:

    That was actually the result from game 257, Nuclear fallout, and should have read:

    Game #264: Wild Weasel(104->113) defeats unicorn77(112->103)
    Effect: +/- 3 Points

    This also modifies the results for the game below it, which should have read:

    Game #265: Thorongil(103->109) defeats unicorn77(103->97)
    Effect: +/- 6 Points

    Scores have been adjusted to compensate for this

    Likewise Xiados you game should have read

    Game #251: Xiados(100->102) defeats Driekus74(100->98)
    Effect: +/- 2 Points

    And that cascades similarly

    Game #256: Thorongil(102->108) defeats Xiados(102->96)
    Effect: +/- 6 Points

    Totals were adjusted prior to processing the 3 new (defaulted) games below.

    New Games Added to AOWH Ladder

    Game #267: Wild Weasel(113->114) defeats CubanGeneral(76->75)
    Effect: +/- 1 Points

    Game #268: Wild Weasel(114->115) defeats CubanGeneral(75->74)
    Effect: +/- 1 Points

    Game #269: Wild Weasel(115->118) defeats Sleet(109->106)
    Effect: +/- 3 Points

    posted 01-11-05 08:17 PM EDT (US)     56 / 165  
    Game 247. The Apprentice. Nojd defeats Arctic Wolf

    [This message has been edited by Nojd (edited 01-11-2005 @ 08:17 PM).]

    posted 01-12-05 11:56 AM EDT (US)     57 / 165  
    I believe the result listed above of Unicorn defeating me in game 258 is incorrect. I do not recall any game, nor can find any game in which I was defeated by Unicorn. Perhaps I simply blocked out yet another poor performance on my part - but I struggle to find record of said failure on my part.
    posted 01-13-05 05:51 AM EDT (US)     58 / 165  


    #267: Wild Weasel(113->114) defeats CubanGeneral(76->75)
    Effect: +/- 1 Points

    Hmm, I think I'm being a bit dense today because I'm now no longer sure how to use a number to reference the result of a game. So, for the avoidance of ambiguity in my own mind, these entries from the WL game registry thread:-

    267. Cold Fusion Wild Weasel vs Unicorn77
    268. Cold Fusion Unicorn77 vs Wild Weasel

    should be recorded as victories for me.



    Edit: would you mind altering my address as listed in the ladder to, please ?

    Edit(2): 268 result.

    [This message has been edited by Wild Weasel (edited 01-17-2005 @ 06:01 PM).]

    posted 01-13-05 02:33 PM EDT (US)     59 / 165  
    Game #265 on Death's Doorstep has ended.

    Dan Petersson defeats Wild Weasel in a great game.

    The final battle was a real nailbiter. Thanks for the game Weasel.

    Itīs nice to be important, but itīs more important to be nice.
    posted 01-25-05 11:07 PM EDT (US)     60 / 165  
    If it's not too much trouble, can I change my email to


    Edit: Game #235. Zsaber&Sprout defeated Enginerd&Dan in Human Valley. Thanks for the great game guys .

    [This message has been edited by Zsaber81 (edited 01-30-2005 @ 11:32 PM).]

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