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SmurfHero
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posted 06-03-04 06:47 AM EDT (US)

While I was browsing the Civilization Fanatics site in search for new unit graphics (and they do have a lot of great usable units!), I noticed that there is a petition going on to ask game publishers Atari to release the source code for Civilization II. I think we should do the same for Age of Wonders! After all, the game is over 5 years old now, and has been succeeded by 2 newer titles in the same series. I doubt that AoW 1 has any real commercial value left to the publishers. The technology inside is probably very much aged by now, so from a competitior's point of view there's not much left there either. So maybe, just maybe, we could persuade them.

But why should we?

Well, if nothing else, we could use the source code to finally get all the pieces together of the used file formats for graphics, campaigns, unit stats, rule sets, etc. We could fix some bugs that are still there, either in the game itself or in the editor. We could build in support for multiple rule sets and/or campaigns. Maybe add a new feature or two ...

How's that sound? If you like this, please send me an email containing your name and valid email address (which I will keep in a safe place of course). If we get enough names (let's say 100 for starters) I will do my best to get this petition to the right place. Speaking of which: would that be Triumph Studios or Take Two?

Anyway, let's get this list growing!

UPDATE 2006-04-01:

Take 2 Interactive is not responding to my messages, either by email or 'classic' mail. Therefore, I am afraid that we will have to let go of this idea.

I thank you all for your interest and support.

SmurfHero - Leader of the Smurf race

[This message has been edited by SmurfHero (edited 04-01-2006 @ 10:20 AM).]

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ZombieEater
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posted 06-03-04 01:51 PM EDT (US) 1 / 125

Hey! Great idea!!

I had a similar thought, but I wasn't sure how to go about it.

Starting a petition is a good way to start. Sign me up!

It is roaming the depths in eternal hunger, devouring all and everything, far from the light, lost in the shadows, alone, wandering, searching, evermore...

Natalinasmpf
Banned

posted 06-12-04 07:46 PM EDT (US) 2 / 125

Or perhaps they will sell the source code, to tide whatever minute commercial value it has left. Because I'm thinking of playing this on Linux, as well. We can always improve it. Good idea.

[This message has been edited by Natalinasmpf (edited 06-12-2004 @ 07:46 PM).]

SmurfHero
Member

posted 07-01-04 03:26 PM EDT (US) 3 / 125

Update: we already have 6 people on the list! Only 94 more to go! At the current speed, this will only take 5 more years.

(Any bright ideas, anyone?)

Allright, maybe we should have another look at the possibilities:

- Implement tactical combat for multi-player games (that's not available right now, is it? - never played MPG before)

- Play AoW on Linux

- Natively support multiple campaigns/rule sets

- Have regular units use magic

And these are just the straightforward things ...

Oh well. Maybe I should just move on to Plan B.

SmurfHero - Leader of the Smurf race

ZombieEater
Member

posted 07-01-04 04:17 PM EDT (US) 4 / 125

There are a few things in AoW2 that should be implemented for AoW.

I think one of the greatest improvements was the limited retaliation and sort of related the correlation of possible shots to remaining movement.

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Silver_Dragon
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posted 07-02-04 03:30 AM EDT (US) 5 / 125

Eh sign me up

Mail sent.

I have gone to find myself.
If i get back before i return, keep me here.

Goblin_Hood
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posted 07-05-04 07:32 AM EDT (US) 6 / 125

sign me up plz!

em@il: goblinhood@web.de
name: Goblin_Hood (Rudolf J. Eizenh�fer Frankfurt/Germany)

I got alot of ideas! but its so hard to explane them in a clear un understandable english...=(

and now we just need ehm 92? isnt it?...^^

Elundor
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posted 07-05-04 08:10 AM EDT (US) 7 / 125

sign me up too

An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

sKout77
Member

posted 07-05-04 10:57 AM EDT (US) 8 / 125

sign me up
Oh and i thought of something... some people don't come in the forums, they just download the maps... if we could get this thread on the front page, we'll have more names signed up.. ask Nojd or Magog

Magog
Member

posted 07-05-04 11:40 AM EDT (US) 9 / 125

You are now front page news.

I think you should send the petition to Triumph, they would know were to send it on if they can't make the decision.

*sends sign me up E-mail*

Eldarion
Member

posted 07-05-04 03:36 PM EDT (US) 10 / 125

Sign me up too

with this speed i calculate it'll take....4.73 years

hehe..my e-mail: out_of_brains@hotmail.com

[This message has been edited by Eldarion (edited 07-05-2004 @ 03:37 PM).]

Snively
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posted 07-05-04 10:04 PM EDT (US) 11 / 125

I'm in! Has this releaseing of the source code for a game ever been done before?

SmurfHero
Member

posted 07-06-04 01:25 AM EDT (US) 12 / 125

Quoted from Magog:

You are now front page news.

Hehehe .. I thought something was going on when I opened my mailbox and found five new petitioners ... (is that a word, petitioners?)

By the way: should we bother the AoW II/SM community with this? A lot of them have moved on from AoW I, but they might still carry some warm feelings for it.

Quoted from Magog:

I think you should send the petition to Triumph, they would know were to send it on if they can't make the decision.

I think so too. Now, only 85 or so more people to back me up ...

Quoted from Snively:

Has this releaseing of the source code for a game ever been done before?

Yes it has! Wolfenstein 3D for instance (the Mother of all 3D First Person Shoot-Em-Ups), Civilization: Call To Powers II (in fact, that's what inspired the Civ II community to ask for "their" source code), Quake also I believe ... Even Microsoft did it recently to some space game! Can't remember its name though. So it's not unique in any way.

SmurfHero - Leader of the Smurf race

Cynon
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posted 07-06-04 03:42 AM EDT (US) 13 / 125

Email Sent.

I squee'd like a fangirl when the Frostlings were announced for AoW3. True story.

Alphax
Member

posted 07-06-04 09:21 AM EDT (US) 14 / 125

Oh yeah, email sent

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A Qatigattuusara
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(id: Dvorak)

posted 07-08-04 03:08 PM EDT (US) 15 / 125

E-mail sent.

Why aren't we writing these messages in C?

Lord Hexagh
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posted 07-09-04 10:43 AM EDT (US) 16 / 125

Yes, sign me up too.

Who put the coffin in my back yard??!!

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White Duke
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posted 07-09-04 06:45 PM EDT (US) 17 / 125

Great idea, sign me up!

Sent e-mail.

[This message has been edited by White Duke (edited 07-09-2004 @ 06:50 PM).]

OuLeT
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posted 07-13-04 12:57 PM EDT (US) 18 / 125

hi!, I am Oulet, i am from Argentina, so if i have any spelling mistakes, sorry!.
I have read the post, my friends and I completely support you on what you are asking, I am going to send you the e-mail right now.

By the way, I have to ask you some questions.

domhnall4h
Member

posted 07-13-04 07:29 PM EDT (US) 19 / 125

I'd like to just see the source. I doubt I'd add any improvements to it; probably just make it as unplayable as possible; but I would like to take a look at it.

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Campaigner
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posted 07-15-04 07:40 PM EDT (US) 20 / 125

Hi, Sweden here. I would like to see the source code released to. A little AoW:SM mixed with AoW 1 would do wonders I believe

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Kilian Houston
Member

posted 07-16-04 04:53 PM EDT (US) 21 / 125

email sent!

There is "wrong" and there is "more wrong"; unfortunatelly there is no such thing as "right" even less "more right".

Travelling faster than a speeding bullet is not of much help if you and it are headed straight towards each other.

A Qatigattuusara
Member
(id: Dvorak)

posted 07-18-04 12:13 PM EDT (US) 22 / 125

Not email sent - Email.Sent = True.

[This message has been edited by Dvorak (edited 09-07-2004 @ 02:29 PM).]

A Qatigattuusara
Member
(id: Dvorak)

posted 07-18-04 12:30 PM EDT (US) 23 / 125

Don't forget the semicolons, either (

Alphax
Member

posted 07-25-04 06:28 AM EDT (US) 24 / 125

Can we get this made a sticky?

Falagar
Member

posted 07-28-04 12:28 PM EDT (US) 25 / 125

I'm in!

Falagar@hotmail.com

E-mail sent.

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Karmic
Member

posted 07-29-04 05:35 PM EDT (US) 26 / 125

Email sent.

LordDragatus
Member

posted 07-31-04 01:42 PM EDT (US) 27 / 125

Hehe, now the BTOOIC people started submiting we should get 100 people in no time.

Sent my e-mail already some time ago.

Lord Dragatus, 30th member of BTOOIC, The One Who Killed the Cow.

[This message has been edited by LordDragatus (edited 07-31-2004 @ 01:42 PM).]

kiya64
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posted 08-01-04 10:54 AM EDT (US) 28 / 125

sign me up too
liangna@caramail.com
go on like this

SmurfHero
Member

posted 08-04-04 01:55 AM EDT (US) 29 / 125

I now have received e-mails from almost 40 people! This is starting to look serious ...

Should we also drop a note at the AoW2 forums? I'm sure that a lot of the former AoW players who have moved on to AoW2/SM still have warm feelings for the Mother of All AOWs.

SmurfHero - Leader of the Smurf race

Alphax
Member

posted 08-04-04 09:29 AM EDT (US) 30 / 125

I've wandered through the AoW2/SM forums a few times and heard people complain about things missing from AoW1, so yes, people over there do still remember it. I also saw some old, old people (remember Jomungur, who wrote this?) so yes, AoW2/SM is popular with the veterans, but there are also a few purists, as well as those who dabble in both. AoW1 is still my favorite, but I don't have SM.

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