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Topic Subject: Battle of the Cherubs - Timelord vs Enginerd
posted 12-08-07 01:47 PM EDT (US)   
Two former PBEM champions meet in this

Battle of the Cherubs!


Who will win?????

Timelord - the former AoW SM Wizard Ladder Champ or
Enginerd - the former AoW 1 Wizard Ladder Champ

These two foes have met in battle on larger maps with other players but for the first time Timelord and Enginerd will battle it out 1v1, mano a mano, Cherub vs Cherub

The map that has been chosen is King David's updated map Elf vs Elf Get Neuman Tournament version.

Timelord as Elves
vs
Enginerd as Dark Elves

Standard house rules, kill or be killed. Why not make it a Ladder game too!

If you wish to play a game on this map then click here to sign up.

If you wish to place odds or cheer for your favorite Cherub then by all means post away!

Game will start in a couple days
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posted 12-09-07 02:47 AM EDT (US)     1 / 40  
Well, I guess I should be impartial (I have no favorites, I love both equally! ).

However... my experience of Timelord as an excellent player (the ruling AoW-SM pbem champion) of both online and pbem MP games, and his many intelligent comments on strategy in the AoW-SM forums make him the best bet. I know Enginerd is a great AoW1 player, but this map requires lengthy AI exploitation before players meet and some of it is pure familiarity with the AoW-sm mechanics.

So, my bet:
TIMELORD WINS!

Throws in $50.

(assuming the map gets balanced, because huge AI exploiters like succubes, Sorceres, and Shade at the start are no match for a Druid and Ranger).


Get the unofficial Patch v1.4. here!
My best AoW-Sm map: Drums of Death (This is the multiplayer version; for single player, or AI use different version)
Other proud AoW-sm maps: The Key of Kharzul, The Fight for Light, Waikiti Island, Goldrush Mountains
My proud AoW2 maps:The River Arne
Coordinator of the v1.4 and v1.5 patchteams, Seraph of AoWHeaven, PBEM Singles Champion 2008
posted 12-12-07 01:45 PM EDT (US)     2 / 40  
I picked up some gold yesterday from a haunted crypt and want to double it to start a masive construction of knights...
I think I will put my money on Timelord to win 100 pieces of gold.

So, Timelord, please stop join so many games and put your focus on this one
posted 12-13-07 08:07 PM EDT (US)     3 / 40  
So great to see that I am the underdog ....

Wonder if I can find someone who will root for me

TL and I are actively tweaking the starting units and the game will start soon!
posted 12-15-07 06:29 PM EDT (US)     4 / 40  
*A small group of dusty AoW1 players walk in*

We'll support you Enginerd!

*waves flags and cheers*

Token Irish Gamer!
posted 12-16-07 10:44 PM EDT (US)     5 / 40  
Yipee!!! At least one AoW1 fan is rooting for me.... let the fun begin!

New starting units that TL and I trying out. Non WL match as we're still playtesting. Surrender OFF. Should be loads of fun.

Black Knight day 1

A fine day... we separate our troops and travel in two directions.... we won't say which troops go where but they are strategically placed to maximize their effectiveness (hehehehehe).

Off we go... to Get Neuman!
posted 12-18-07 10:50 PM EDT (US)     6 / 40  
White Elf - Day 1

With income from my farms totally destroyed by the death storm that my dear cousin conjured, steps are taken to correct it.

Turn sent

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War of the Twins- 1 vs 1 PBEM map, Too Much Water - 1 vs 1 PBEM map, winner of 2009 1vs1 Mapmaking Challenge
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posted 12-20-07 11:09 AM EDT (US)     7 / 40  
Well, I certainly don't know much about anyone, but since I only play AoW1, I guess I'll support Enginerd!

*waves flags and cheers too*

posted 12-20-07 08:10 PM EDT (US)     8 / 40  
Dark Elf day 2

Little action today, our two stacks are rushing to their next encounter.... tomorrow we hope to seduce a nearby hero... should be a fun battle

________
so nice to see I've got another person in my cheering section
posted 12-20-07 08:34 PM EDT (US)     9 / 40  
White Elf - Day 2

Yeah, I too hope to seduce a hero, though he has seeker, marksmanship III and archery. Either my nymph or temple virgin or both are going down, I predict...though with the AI, you can never say!

Turn sent

Edit: Thats 2 each for you and me, Enginerd

2009 1v1-Mapmaking Champion, Former PBEM Singles Champion, Proud contributor to the UPatch 1.4 and 1.5 effort
War of the Twins- 1 vs 1 PBEM map, Too Much Water - 1 vs 1 PBEM map, winner of 2009 1vs1 Mapmaking Challenge
My Dragon Age development blog

[This message has been edited by Timelord (edited 12-20-2007 @ 08:35 PM).]

posted 12-20-07 09:45 PM EDT (US)     10 / 40  
The Black Elf day 3

We enter a glorious battle and gain a hero... ours had seeker and doom gaze but choose to use his arrows to slay our bird (rats... we really could have used his vision to scout out things), our healer survived the arrow attack but both our spiders went down after failing to secure the hero. The other guards were quickly defeated and fortunately our seducer was successful on her second attempt.

Income is now positive

_________
2 followers posting in forums they don't normally frequent has got to count for double I'd say
posted 12-20-07 10:24 PM EDT (US)     11 / 40  
White Elf - Day 3

With 3 entanglers, its hard to miss a hero
Our income is positive too but I wish it was way more than that. Some powerful heroes of Neuman with powerful escorts are seen coming closer...

Turn sent

2009 1v1-Mapmaking Champion, Former PBEM Singles Champion, Proud contributor to the UPatch 1.4 and 1.5 effort
War of the Twins- 1 vs 1 PBEM map, Too Much Water - 1 vs 1 PBEM map, winner of 2009 1vs1 Mapmaking Challenge
My Dragon Age development blog
posted 12-21-07 08:35 PM EDT (US)     12 / 40  
The Black Elf day 4

We attack another city and the stupid spider queen defender performed a bit too well for us... her webs almost crippled our forces . We were victorious but it was a bit scary for a minute, close call.

Elsewhere... our other stack advances forward hoping to meet more of Neuman's troops.... hope they don't attack us in the night.
posted 12-21-07 08:47 PM EDT (US)     13 / 40  
White Elf - Day 4

First blood for us. The spy in the employ of my cousin was killed...mercilessly!

Turn sent

2009 1v1-Mapmaking Champion, Former PBEM Singles Champion, Proud contributor to the UPatch 1.4 and 1.5 effort
War of the Twins- 1 vs 1 PBEM map, Too Much Water - 1 vs 1 PBEM map, winner of 2009 1vs1 Mapmaking Challenge
My Dragon Age development blog
posted 12-21-07 09:16 PM EDT (US)     14 / 40  
The Black Elf day 5

Hehehehehe, our spy did not quite make it to his objective... the cave. The troops there were willing to join us but we just couldn't get close enough to them. We would have lost him either was as the swimming hero of Neuman's was going to overtake us soon. At least we saw some of the troops that our cousin brought to the Eastern front

Elsewhere.... we make a terrible blunder as we leave troops exposed to an attack in the night we can only hope they don't attack us as we will surely die and it will cripple our efforts on that front if they do.
posted 12-21-07 10:29 PM EDT (US)     15 / 40  
Black Elf day 6

Well.... we got attacked in the night... most unfortunate. Our Eastern forces will have to regroup now and it could be nasty for a few turns. Those darn heroes that are quite strong... are really quite strong

The Western offensive goes well.
posted 12-22-07 00:08 AM EDT (US)     16 / 40  
Black Elf day 7

Well... we continue to regroup in the East while we continue to do well in the West. We are probably behind at this point but we'll figure out someway to come back in force!
posted 12-22-07 01:10 PM EDT (US)     17 / 40  
White Elf - Days 4-7

Things have been going ok. We lost our starting town but have gained a Human one, shifting our alignment to Neutral. Not only that, an Elven warrior with a totally unpronounceable name joined us with his cohorts!
We sent him off to secure some ruins and he discovered the only Holy Strike sword in this land!
We see that my cousin has lost 2 heroes already...guess I should increase the bribes I am sending Neuman

Turn sent

2009 1v1-Mapmaking Champion, Former PBEM Singles Champion, Proud contributor to the UPatch 1.4 and 1.5 effort
War of the Twins- 1 vs 1 PBEM map, Too Much Water - 1 vs 1 PBEM map, winner of 2009 1vs1 Mapmaking Challenge
My Dragon Age development blog
posted 12-22-07 07:20 PM EDT (US)     18 / 40  
Black elf day 8

We continue the cat and mouse game with Neuman... he has been winning but we will soon turn that tide against him.

Elsewhere... things progressing nicely.
posted 12-22-07 08:55 PM EDT (US)     19 / 40  
White Elf - Day 8

Tomorrow, we expect a big battle!

My home town rebelled but being a peacekeeper, Neuman recruited the garrison. Where I thought I would have to deal with one hero, there is an army now...my unicorn and iron maiden beat a hasty retreat.

Turn sent

2009 1v1-Mapmaking Champion, Former PBEM Singles Champion, Proud contributor to the UPatch 1.4 and 1.5 effort
War of the Twins- 1 vs 1 PBEM map, Too Much Water - 1 vs 1 PBEM map, winner of 2009 1vs1 Mapmaking Challenge
My Dragon Age development blog
posted 12-23-07 03:00 AM EDT (US)     20 / 40  
Who will win?????
I have no idea, but since our mighty Cherub battles in honour of Age of Wonders, I'll have to support him. Go for victory Engineerd!!

[This message has been edited by Gandalf theWhite (edited 12-23-2007 @ 03:06 AM).]

posted 12-23-07 03:04 AM EDT (US)     21 / 40  
If its AoW1 champion vs AoW SM we should have a reverse match as well, playing AoW1...

(better get that Christmas list updated with a certain cd, TL... )


Get the unofficial Patch v1.4. here!
My best AoW-Sm map: Drums of Death (This is the multiplayer version; for single player, or AI use different version)
Other proud AoW-sm maps: The Key of Kharzul, The Fight for Light, Waikiti Island, Goldrush Mountains
My proud AoW2 maps:The River Arne
Coordinator of the v1.4 and v1.5 patchteams, Seraph of AoWHeaven, PBEM Singles Champion 2008
posted 12-24-07 06:29 AM EDT (US)     22 / 40  
Black Elf

We enjoy the Christmas present from the White Elf! The invaders killed a few of our troops.... I jus thope they attck a few of Neuman's troops that are still wandering around

@Swolte - Oh... what an idea.... we could probably play Swolterwoods (goes off searching to see if he still has an old extra copy of the game somewhere....)

[This message has been edited by Enginerd (edited 12-24-2007 @ 06:31 AM).]

posted 12-24-07 03:06 PM EDT (US)     23 / 40  
Original AoW forever! Enginerd for the win!

-/X\(++)/X\-L.E.D. Acolyte-/X\(++)/X\-
posted 12-24-07 03:11 PM EDT (US)     24 / 40  
White Elf -

We capture another human town. Now, the south is almost secure and we start the push against the central city. I already see that my cousin has arrived there...though with an army smaller than I had expected.

Turn sent

I do have a copy of the original AoW too...bought it when I started playing AoW II. Maybe I should dust it off and start learning

2009 1v1-Mapmaking Champion, Former PBEM Singles Champion, Proud contributor to the UPatch 1.4 and 1.5 effort
War of the Twins- 1 vs 1 PBEM map, Too Much Water - 1 vs 1 PBEM map, winner of 2009 1vs1 Mapmaking Challenge
My Dragon Age development blog
posted 12-24-07 06:40 PM EDT (US)     25 / 40  
XD Lookin' forward to that one day Timelord!

Among the dusty AoW1 players Lord Naismith also waves a GO AOW1 CHAMP GO! flag.

Go Enginerd! Us here at Aow1H got yore back!

*Waves ragged tatters*
posted 12-26-07 11:31 PM EDT (US)     26 / 40  
Black Elf day 10

We let my many faithful followers know that we are between a rock and hard place but we are fighting back. Neuman will get tired of seeing our strength and we will do all that we can!

With that we have enlisted the aid of another mighty hero, she will be a great addition to our army.
posted 12-27-07 07:14 PM EDT (US)     27 / 40  
White Elf - Day 10

We snag a Neuman hero for ourselves too. The Tamer recruited by my cousin is far superior to this warrior though - in harvesting weaklings.

We move closer to the central city.

Turn sent

2009 1v1-Mapmaking Champion, Former PBEM Singles Champion, Proud contributor to the UPatch 1.4 and 1.5 effort
War of the Twins- 1 vs 1 PBEM map, Too Much Water - 1 vs 1 PBEM map, winner of 2009 1vs1 Mapmaking Challenge
My Dragon Age development blog
posted 12-27-07 09:28 PM EDT (US)     28 / 40  
White Elf - Day 11

My cousin has run off somewhere!!

Turn sent

2009 1v1-Mapmaking Champion, Former PBEM Singles Champion, Proud contributor to the UPatch 1.4 and 1.5 effort
War of the Twins- 1 vs 1 PBEM map, Too Much Water - 1 vs 1 PBEM map, winner of 2009 1vs1 Mapmaking Challenge
My Dragon Age development blog
posted 12-28-07 02:19 PM EDT (US)     29 / 40  
black elf day 12

Yes... yes.. we had more pressing matters to attend to than to sit around and watch the center capital get stronger and stronger :}:}

We capture another city and enlist the aid of some new recruits.
posted 12-28-07 07:05 PM EDT (US)     30 / 40  
White Elf - Day 12

Getting stronger? My dear cousin, it was not getting stronger but it will now...I, the new ruler of Neumanville, say so

Turn sent

2009 1v1-Mapmaking Champion, Former PBEM Singles Champion, Proud contributor to the UPatch 1.4 and 1.5 effort
War of the Twins- 1 vs 1 PBEM map, Too Much Water - 1 vs 1 PBEM map, winner of 2009 1vs1 Mapmaking Challenge
My Dragon Age development blog
posted 12-29-07 09:51 AM EDT (US)     31 / 40  
Black Elf

We regroup on our side and gather a few more troops to our list. With Neuman's influence gone it will be much easier to finish off the remaining troops wandering around out there.

However... it does not bode well for us that our cousin is now sooo close.
posted 01-13-08 04:39 PM EDT (US)     32 / 40  
Black Elf

The last couple days have been rough but we are regrouping. Neuman's capital has fallen (to our enemy) but we have high hopes of pressing the attack... soon
posted 01-13-08 10:04 PM EDT (US)     33 / 40  
White Elf - Day 14

Well, we are strongly entrenched in the capital now, though I fear to actually stay *in* the capital for fear of death storms. *hint*
We do seem to be getting stronger and stronger though...wonder what my dark cousin will be bringing to the table to match my strengths?

Turn sent

2009 1v1-Mapmaking Champion, Former PBEM Singles Champion, Proud contributor to the UPatch 1.4 and 1.5 effort
War of the Twins- 1 vs 1 PBEM map, Too Much Water - 1 vs 1 PBEM map, winner of 2009 1vs1 Mapmaking Challenge
My Dragon Age development blog
posted 01-18-08 11:11 PM EDT (US)     34 / 40  
Black Elf

Things getting progressively better for us since the last few days have not been kind. We could be doing better but we still have a few tricks up our sleeve.
posted 01-28-08 00:40 AM EDT (US)     35 / 40  
Turn sent

2009 1v1-Mapmaking Champion, Former PBEM Singles Champion, Proud contributor to the UPatch 1.4 and 1.5 effort
War of the Twins- 1 vs 1 PBEM map, Too Much Water - 1 vs 1 PBEM map, winner of 2009 1vs1 Mapmaking Challenge
My Dragon Age development blog
posted 02-03-08 05:57 PM EDT (US)     36 / 40  
Black Elf

Slow going... and wondering what we're going to do about that poison field (glad we changed it to fire for the latter games).
posted 02-19-08 09:30 PM EDT (US)     37 / 40  
The Dark Elf day 17

Hmmmm.... poison clouds guarding the entrance to the mighty city... and now sacred woods cover the path and our scouts tell us we would surely die if we made it to the capital

Guess we'll regroup and figure out what to do.... whatever that might be.
posted 02-20-08 11:33 PM EDT (US)     38 / 40  
White Elf -

Yes, the capital is safe and secure from any attacks - even with a couple of death storms preceding said attacks. Long-term strategic plans conceived earlier are now being put in motion.

Turn sent

2009 1v1-Mapmaking Champion, Former PBEM Singles Champion, Proud contributor to the UPatch 1.4 and 1.5 effort
War of the Twins- 1 vs 1 PBEM map, Too Much Water - 1 vs 1 PBEM map, winner of 2009 1vs1 Mapmaking Challenge
My Dragon Age development blog
posted 02-21-08 09:33 PM EDT (US)     39 / 40  
Hmmmm... things continue to be unpleasant for us...
posted 04-05-08 01:28 PM EDT (US)     40 / 40  
White Elf -

So, the battle ends today. Helmut and his hero cronies mopped up the resistance at a human village headed personally by the Black Elf himself. Unfortunately for my cousin, as soon as he was sent to the void, the rebels swore fealty to me!

Final Turn sent

Good fight, Enginerd!

2009 1v1-Mapmaking Champion, Former PBEM Singles Champion, Proud contributor to the UPatch 1.4 and 1.5 effort
War of the Twins- 1 vs 1 PBEM map, Too Much Water - 1 vs 1 PBEM map, winner of 2009 1vs1 Mapmaking Challenge
My Dragon Age development blog
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